GMS News 107 November 2017


October Meeting 


woman_at_kioskDespite some scepticism that phone boxes could be fascinating, Peter Esposito proved the doubters wrong. With well-chosen slides, film clips and an encyclopaedic knowledge of his subject, Peter kept our attention for over an hour with a mixture of nostalgia, thatched


Peter_at_screenphone kiosks and other architecturallypeter_at_display quaint phone boxes and film clips showing a very young Henry Fonda and singing telephonists. A small display ofmodel phone boxes and GPO vans and a selection of old phones added further interest.



November meeting 


The next meeting of the Great Mongeham Society will be the Annual General Meeting, at which the committee for the coming year will be elected. A couple of people will be standing g down from their posts, so if you would like to be on the committee, please put yourself forward.

After the AGM there will be  a ”bring and tell” session when members are asked to bring along a favourite holiday photo and say a few words to explain why they chose it. It could be a relaxing beach holiday or a challenging adventure. It could have been this year or a childhood memory, or anything in between.

The meeting will be on Thursday, 16th November at 7.30 pm.


A Part of the 1877 Ordnance Survey Map 


Inaccurate Histories

Some years ago I used  the Great Mongeham Notes to comment on some of the myths and inaccurate stories about our village which  were in circulation. A few days ago I had a look at the Wikipedia entry for Great Mongeham only to find that the inaccuracies have re-emerged. Here are some of the glaring errors:-

1. In 1415 Henry V granted the Fogge family of Mongeham the exclusive rights to brew and ship beer to the English soldiers in Calais.

 At the time the Crioll/Kiriel family held the manor. It wasn’t until  1461 that  John Fogge inherited the manor through marriage.

2.The original building [of the church] probably dates from Saxon times but there are claims that it goes back to AD 470 .

 The earliest part of the building  is late 11th or early 12th century. The 470 date is the result of careless reading of the history written by the Rev Tonks.

3.Inside the church is a helmet Known as "Paul-Tucker" which may have been worn at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.

The helmet disappeared from the church many years ago, and was a 17th century helmet which might have been worn in the Civil War

4.William Crayford led a contingent of Kent men in the Wars of the Roses on the Yorkist side.

 Although William was made a Knight Banneret there is no evidence that he led a contingent of Kentish men.

There are several other minor inaccuracies, making the whole article totally unreliable. For a more accurate history of the village go to the Great Mongeham Society website. Wherever possible I have used primary sources, or official translations of primary sources. I have translated several from Latin. I have used house deeds which people have kindly lent me . When I have not had confidence in my source I have made it clear. It is good that amateurs  take an interest in local history, but articles in Wikipedia  should be much more carefully researched.


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